Shannon Stacey

My head's spinning 'round on my shoulders

What do you do if you don’t like the arguments writers are making against being censored? Censor the :censor: list and bounce their :censor: rejected posts back to them!

Where the :censor: is my membership card?


So nobody says anything to the woman who calls us TRASH, but I can’t respond to a post with:

> Except for the fact it says all RWA programs and services–
> lit signings and the RITAs are RWA programs?–and Ann has already
> kept from signing at an RWA booth because of it. Therefore, it does
> apply to more than the RWR, the RWA website, and the theater clips.
> Shannon

OMG. I can feel my blood pressure in my ears. That can’t be good, can it? I swear, if they actually manage to get rid of me by my stroking out, I’ll be pissed.


10 comments to “My head's spinning 'round on my shoulders”

  1. Alison
      · June 8th, 2005 at 9:01 pm · Link

    Who called who trash? I’ve been buried in my book all day and have just come out for Greek pizza!

  2. Charlene T
      · June 8th, 2005 at 9:06 pm · Link

    Breathe deeply, Shan. Look at Mr. Penguin. Think happy thoughts. :penguin:

  3. THIS! Christine
      · June 8th, 2005 at 9:43 pm · Link

    Is there a moderator on this list Shannon? Perhaps they need to be reminded what respectful discourse is.


  4. Shannon
      · June 8th, 2005 at 10:08 pm · Link

    Essentially she said why are we even worried about the trash?

    And it does have a moderator. She’s the one who censored my post. :rant:

    *breathe in* :penguin: *breathe out*

  5. kate
      · June 9th, 2005 at 12:08 am · Link


    flock of peckers

    where is this place?

  6. Shannon
      · June 9th, 2005 at 12:24 am · Link

    The rwaorg list. They’ve actually allowed like 8 posts through since they went to moderated status. I’m not impressed. :eyebrow:

  7. THIS! Christine
      · June 9th, 2005 at 12:27 am · Link

    You know Shannon, like you, I was so proud to finally become a member of RWA (and I’m a complete newbie). With two books under my belt it was time to get out and learn this industry. And what better organisation than Romance Writers of America… now, to have this incident blow up, I’m feeling very disillusioned.
    I thought this was a professional organisation dedicated to advocating romance writers. Instead I feel as though I’ve fallen into some dreadful social club full of vapid women who’d rather talk about what everyone else is doing instead of discussing what they are working on. I’ve paid my dues for this year, I”ve paid for Reno and flights… but I’m also shopping around for a professional writers group. Preferably one that is more interested in ‘that’ I write, not what I write.


  8. Shannon
      · June 9th, 2005 at 1:15 am · Link

    Romance Writers of America IS the place for learning about the industry. And you definitely learn about the bad along with the good. I’ve been a member for several years now, so I may just be jaded by thousands of discussions of word count methods, endless examples of list over-moderation, and the Great Annual Brouhahas (I think it was the Great Publisher Recognition Brouhaha when I joined, and I almost asked for my money back the first day I was admitted to the lists OMG, was that ugly! But I stayed, and learned a LOT).

    Would it make a difference if I’d sold to Flipside or SIM instead of EC? Probably. Would it make a difference if I had any desire whatsoever to ever go to Nationals? Probably. But I don’t. RWR and that confusing mass of email loops which mostly seem to consist nowadays of “This is not the correct loop for this discussion”, are my benefits.

    I’m still trying really, really hard not to make a rash decision. Really I am. But shutting down what was a fairly reasonable discussion on a private loop intended for discussion of RWA business was…OMG! Too much.

    If you just joined recently, you really shouldn’t make a decision based on this situation, even though this situation sucks and is WRONG (sorry), because another Great Annual Brouhaha will come along next year, and the benefits you reap may still tip the balance of your scale toward staying with the organization.

  9. robin bayne
      · June 12th, 2005 at 9:15 pm · Link

    Christine and any author with 2 books published– come join Novelists, Inc!

  10. Shannon
      · June 12th, 2005 at 10:19 pm · Link

    I’ve seen a few conversations about them recently. Certainly something to look into. :nod:

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