:shrug: What am I missing? I don’t get it. I don’t see the black sheep being kept away, nor do I see PAN selling wool for anyone. All the sheep are fleeced at the conference, not just the ones who don’t belong to PAN, and there are no extra inner-pen dues. The thing about the size of the fleece being sold, is, I grant you, ridiculous, though.
I need an ISBN Number. And even for provisional, I’m missing a few elements yet.
Still thing your thing is a big:wtf: though! If your RWA recognized publisher calls it a novel, then it should be considered a novel. Isn’t it trust in their very business practices what makes them RWA recognized in the first place?
I htink we need to start a letter-writing campaign.
It’s so utterly bizarre. As submitted, like you said, my RWA recognized publisher considers it a novel. But it’s too short for PAN. And yet, the RITA contest doesn’t specifiy PAN membership, does it, and the book would fit in their novella word count? So could somebody not published enough to meet PAN requirements win in their published author’s contest? (If the word :censor: didn’t make the judges break out in hives, of course.)
Add in to that the fact that by my publisher’s word count method, it’s too short for PAN. BUT, if I make it Courier New 12, 25 lines per page, it IS long enough. (Ethically, I feel that one should go by the method used by the publisher which bought it, so I didn’t fudge it.)
But, while this isn’t something I consider during editing because I just don’t care that much, during this round of edits it’s going to go over PAN’s 40k mark, anyway. :woot:
The system is definitely screwy, though, and at some point I might try to form the rambling thoughts above into a well thought out letter to the board.
Hopefully you’ll get those missing elements soon! And hopefully we won’t join the PAN loops and find yet more discussions on word counts. :crazy:
PBW’s an auto-hop for me every day, and that entry’s just one of the many reasons why. :nod:
As for why I care about getting into PAN? I don’t think I care as much as I used to. I know it’s going to be about the same as PRO, only with releases instead of contest finals in the sig lines. But I wanted to join RWA for a long, long, long time. And, despite being somewhat more jaded/cynical, it’s a step I really want to take. Maybe it makes me very shallow, but PAN was always a very tangible rung on the ladder for me, and I want that rung. Then I’ll probably throw the ladder away. :shrug:
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:shrug: What am I missing? I don’t get it. I don’t see the black sheep being kept away, nor do I see PAN selling wool for anyone. All the sheep are fleeced at the conference, not just the ones who don’t belong to PAN, and there are no extra inner-pen dues. The thing about the size of the fleece being sold, is, I grant you, ridiculous, though.
The rest of it doesn’t seem accurate at all, IMO.
(By the way, I’m not PAN eligible either.)
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It wasn’t necessarily brilliantly accurate, but it was brilliantly funny. (To me, anyway. I need some hurmor in my life today.)
Why aren’t you PAN eligible? That, I don’t get.
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I need an ISBN Number. And even for provisional, I’m missing a few elements yet.
Still thing your thing is a big:wtf: though! If your RWA recognized publisher calls it a novel, then it should be considered a novel. Isn’t it trust in their very business practices what makes them RWA recognized in the first place?
I htink we need to start a letter-writing campaign.
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It’s so utterly bizarre. As submitted, like you said, my RWA recognized publisher considers it a novel. But it’s too short for PAN. And yet, the RITA contest doesn’t specifiy PAN membership, does it, and the book would fit in their novella word count? So could somebody not published enough to meet PAN requirements win in their published author’s contest? (If the word :censor: didn’t make the judges break out in hives, of course.)
Add in to that the fact that by my publisher’s word count method, it’s too short for PAN. BUT, if I make it Courier New 12, 25 lines per page, it IS long enough. (Ethically, I feel that one should go by the method used by the publisher which bought it, so I didn’t fudge it.)
But, while this isn’t something I consider during editing because I just don’t care that much, during this round of edits it’s going to go over PAN’s 40k mark, anyway. :woot:
The system is definitely screwy, though, and at some point I might try to form the rambling thoughts above into a well thought out letter to the board.
Hopefully you’ll get those missing elements soon! And hopefully we won’t join the PAN loops and find yet more discussions on word counts. :crazy:
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What am I missing? I don’t get it.
And I don’t get why anyone cares that they’re eligible to belong. PAN has yet to show me anything I haven’t learned or gained on my own. :hide:
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Okay, that was just TOO funny! Thanks for the link Shannon!
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Hey, thanks for the link, I’d have missed this.
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PBW’s an auto-hop for me every day, and that entry’s just one of the many reasons why. :nod:
As for why I care about getting into PAN? I don’t think I care as much as I used to. I know it’s going to be about the same as PRO, only with releases instead of contest finals in the sig lines. But I wanted to join RWA for a long, long, long time. And, despite being somewhat more jaded/cynical, it’s a step I really want to take. Maybe it makes me very shallow, but PAN was always a very tangible rung on the ladder for me, and I want that rung. Then I’ll probably throw the ladder away. :shrug:
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I guess this is one of those jokes you only get if you know all the stuff behind it… I mostly scratched my head. :wtf:
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I’m PAN and I don’t get it either. But that doesn’t stop me from loving it.
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There needs to be an organization whose sole function it is to provide a conference to simply get together and have fun at a conference.
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Doesn’t RT come close?