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		<title>By: Natalie J. Damschroder</title>
		<link>http://shannonstacey.com/2009/11/a-question-of-dialogue-structure/comment-page-1/#comment-8596</link>
		<dc:creator>Natalie J. Damschroder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2009 00:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy cr**, thank you, Karen and Jill, because in the 16 years I&#039;ve been in this business, I&#039;ve NEVER been told I have to structure a paragraph like that.  Nor have I ever noticed either way in any book I&#039;ve read.

Jewell...I just line edited a 160,000-word novel that was punctuated like that.  Yes, it drove me insane.  :twisted: I couldn&#039;t read a book like that for pleasure!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy cr**, thank you, Karen and Jill, because in the 16 years I&#8217;ve been in this business, I&#8217;ve NEVER been told I have to structure a paragraph like that.  Nor have I ever noticed either way in any book I&#8217;ve read.</p>
<p>Jewell&#8230;I just line edited a 160,000-word novel that was punctuated like that.  Yes, it drove me insane.  <img src='http://shannonstacey.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' />  I couldn&#8217;t read a book like that for pleasure!</p>
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		<title>By: Jewell</title>
		<link>http://shannonstacey.com/2009/11/a-question-of-dialogue-structure/comment-page-1/#comment-8595</link>
		<dc:creator>Jewell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 18:41:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Karen on this.  Well, except for maybe the two dialogues in one paragraph thing. That gave me pause.  :smile:

But I once read a book where this is how the author dealt with dialogue tags. Drove me apeshit.


“I hate when you say something’s against the rules,” Maya slipped off an orange Nike. “There are no rules,” she chucked the shoe at Shannon’s head.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Karen on this.  Well, except for maybe the two dialogues in one paragraph thing. That gave me pause.  <img src='http://shannonstacey.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':smile:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>But I once read a book where this is how the author dealt with dialogue tags. Drove me apeshit.</p>
<p>“I hate when you say something’s against the rules,” Maya slipped off an orange Nike. “There are no rules,” she chucked the shoe at Shannon’s head.</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon</title>
		<link>http://shannonstacey.com/2009/11/a-question-of-dialogue-structure/comment-page-1/#comment-8594</link>
		<dc:creator>Shannon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 02:51:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;But then, I also will — horror of horrors — sometimes let two characters share one dialogue exchange in a single paragraph, if that suits the flow of the moment.&lt;/i&gt;

:::clutches heart:::

Such a no-no!  :lol:

I guess, since I haven&#039;t noticed that, is that it&#039;s okay if it&#039;s DONE WELL. Maybe the passages have been sticking out to me because they weren&#039;t done as well.

And I learned to type with 2 spaces after a period, too. Took me a couple of books, but it&#039;s doable.

I still try to remember to check before I submit, though, because when I&#039;m tired or really in the zone, I&#039;ll regress.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>But then, I also will — horror of horrors — sometimes let two characters share one dialogue exchange in a single paragraph, if that suits the flow of the moment.</i></p>
<p>:::clutches heart:::</p>
<p>Such a no-no!  <img src='http://shannonstacey.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I guess, since I haven&#8217;t noticed that, is that it&#8217;s okay if it&#8217;s DONE WELL. Maybe the passages have been sticking out to me because they weren&#8217;t done as well.</p>
<p>And I learned to type with 2 spaces after a period, too. Took me a couple of books, but it&#8217;s doable.</p>
<p>I still try to remember to check before I submit, though, because when I&#8217;m tired or really in the zone, I&#8217;ll regress.</p>
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		<title>By: Jill Sorenson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jill Sorenson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 21:14:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Maya.

What rule?  I&#039;ve never heard of such a thing.  I like the fourth example.  As long as we understand who&#039;s saying/doing what, and there aren&#039;t two speakers in the same paragraph, I don&#039;t see a problem.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Maya.</p>
<p>What rule?  I&#8217;ve never heard of such a thing.  I like the fourth example.  As long as we understand who&#8217;s saying/doing what, and there aren&#8217;t two speakers in the same paragraph, I don&#8217;t see a problem.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen Templeton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen Templeton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:59:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay...had no idea there were dialogue &quot;rules.&quot; (Other than the obvious punctuation stuff, I mean.) But then, I write it as I hear it -- i.e, what feels right at that moment in that scene.

Because dialogue tags aren&#039;t only about speaker attribution, they&#039;re also about incorporating action into the dialogue. Why couldn&#039;t Maya say something, take off her shoe, then hang onto it for a moment while she said something else before chucking it at Shan? I mean, people alternate speech with action all the time, right?

Or is what&#039;s bugging you the staccato feel to the passage? In which case, I&#039;d probably merge the last three sentences to indicate she was talking and chucking at the same time. Or something. :)

Hey, I&#039;m all about variety. Using the same dialogue structure -- no matter what it is -- throughout a book is eventually going to annoy the reader.

But then, I also will -- horror of horrors -- sometimes let two characters share one dialogue exchange in a single paragraph, if that suits the flow of the moment. It&#039;s all about the rhythm of the passage, both in how it looks on the page and how it sounds in my ear as I read it back. If it works, it works. Period.

Speaking of which -- Annemarie and Lisa J, I learned how to type in 1964. So you might say the two period thing was pretty ingrained. Retrained myself to the one period method IN ONE MANUSCRIPT a year or so ago. So it can be done.  ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay&#8230;had no idea there were dialogue &#8220;rules.&#8221; (Other than the obvious punctuation stuff, I mean.) But then, I write it as I hear it &#8212; i.e, what feels right at that moment in that scene.</p>
<p>Because dialogue tags aren&#8217;t only about speaker attribution, they&#8217;re also about incorporating action into the dialogue. Why couldn&#8217;t Maya say something, take off her shoe, then hang onto it for a moment while she said something else before chucking it at Shan? I mean, people alternate speech with action all the time, right?</p>
<p>Or is what&#8217;s bugging you the staccato feel to the passage? In which case, I&#8217;d probably merge the last three sentences to indicate she was talking and chucking at the same time. Or something. <img src='http://shannonstacey.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Hey, I&#8217;m all about variety. Using the same dialogue structure &#8212; no matter what it is &#8212; throughout a book is eventually going to annoy the reader.</p>
<p>But then, I also will &#8212; horror of horrors &#8212; sometimes let two characters share one dialogue exchange in a single paragraph, if that suits the flow of the moment. It&#8217;s all about the rhythm of the passage, both in how it looks on the page and how it sounds in my ear as I read it back. If it works, it works. Period.</p>
<p>Speaking of which &#8212; Annemarie and Lisa J, I learned how to type in 1964. So you might say the two period thing was pretty ingrained. Retrained myself to the one period method IN ONE MANUSCRIPT a year or so ago. So it can be done.  <img src='http://shannonstacey.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Annmarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 18:14:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right on, Lisa!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right on, Lisa!</p>
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		<title>By: Lisa J</title>
		<link>http://shannonstacey.com/2009/11/a-question-of-dialogue-structure/comment-page-1/#comment-8590</link>
		<dc:creator>Lisa J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 16:09:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is physically impossible for me to type something without two spaces after a period.  It is WRONG to use one space!  Ask my typing teacher in school.  As an admin, I cannot be forced to use one space.

I&#039;m with Annmarie, we cannot deal with the dialogue issue until the world goes back to two spaces.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is physically impossible for me to type something without two spaces after a period.  It is WRONG to use one space!  Ask my typing teacher in school.  As an admin, I cannot be forced to use one space.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m with Annmarie, we cannot deal with the dialogue issue until the world goes back to two spaces.</p>
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		<title>By: Annmarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Annmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:37:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shut UP!  We aren&#039;t supposed to have two spaces after a period?  When did this change and why are the rules being changed?  DAMMIT!  I NEED RULES!

As to the other, I can&#039;t address that until we resolve this one space after a period thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shut UP!  We aren&#8217;t supposed to have two spaces after a period?  When did this change and why are the rules being changed?  DAMMIT!  I NEED RULES!</p>
<p>As to the other, I can&#8217;t address that until we resolve this one space after a period thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Emma Wayne Porter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emma Wayne Porter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 04:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dialogue tags serve one main purpose: to attribute dialogue to its speaker. Why should this require more than one dialogue tag?

Writing is evolving, though. Multiple breaks in dialogue to deliver stage directions are symptomatic of TV and movie viewing. Actions in film or the small screen often do convey meaning to viewers due to the body language cues given off by the actors.

Now the visio-aural &quot;scripting&quot; from TV and movies has bled over onto the page, where in the past, writing was confined to graphical representation of ideas, using metaphor and allegory to convey plot, character and emotion, and to illicit emotion from the reader.

Only very rarely do I find any real meaning derived from these stage direction dialogue tags. Is this writing evolution a bad thing? Who knows. But I do know one thing:

Unexpected interruptions in dialogue = print convention ignored = visual noise = reader has to work harder to derive meaning from text = broken immersion = reader has an excuse to put the book down and never pick it up (or open the file) again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dialogue tags serve one main purpose: to attribute dialogue to its speaker. Why should this require more than one dialogue tag?</p>
<p>Writing is evolving, though. Multiple breaks in dialogue to deliver stage directions are symptomatic of TV and movie viewing. Actions in film or the small screen often do convey meaning to viewers due to the body language cues given off by the actors.</p>
<p>Now the visio-aural &#8220;scripting&#8221; from TV and movies has bled over onto the page, where in the past, writing was confined to graphical representation of ideas, using metaphor and allegory to convey plot, character and emotion, and to illicit emotion from the reader.</p>
<p>Only very rarely do I find any real meaning derived from these stage direction dialogue tags. Is this writing evolution a bad thing? Who knows. But I do know one thing:</p>
<p>Unexpected interruptions in dialogue = print convention ignored = visual noise = reader has to work harder to derive meaning from text = broken immersion = reader has an excuse to put the book down and never pick it up (or open the file) again.</p>
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		<title>By: Rhonda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rhonda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 16:44:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>:shock: maybe it&#039;s a southern thing... and yes Maya is close enough (sort of) to chuck her orange Nike at me, but I&#039;m in the &quot;Lately, though, I’ve been seeing a lot of this…&quot; group. Darn good thing you can&#039;t throw a croc from NH. Of course I&#039;ve never been much of a rule follower  :twisted:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> <img src='http://shannonstacey.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_eek.gif' alt=':shock:' class='wp-smiley' />  maybe it&#8217;s a southern thing&#8230; and yes Maya is close enough (sort of) to chuck her orange Nike at me, but I&#8217;m in the &#8220;Lately, though, I’ve been seeing a lot of this…&#8221; group. Darn good thing you can&#8217;t throw a croc from NH. Of course I&#8217;ve never been much of a rule follower  <img src='http://shannonstacey.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_twisted.gif' alt=':twisted:' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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